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ANOVA p-values for significant Levene's?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:01 pm
by TerryLansdown
Hi,

Is it possible to get the p-values for when the assumptions for homogeneity are not met, i.e., Levene's is significant?

Thanks, Terry

Re: ANOVA p-values for significant Levene's?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:07 am
by jonathon
hi terry, isn't it just this?:
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Re: ANOVA p-values for significant Levene's?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:57 pm
by TerryLansdown
Ack, of course, thanks!

Re: ANOVA p-values for significant Levene's?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:54 am
by TerryLansdown
Hi, Sorry had a re-think about this. I think the p-value you've highlighted is telling us that the assumptions of homogenity of variances are met, 0.2992 above. If this value was significant, it would be inappropriate to use the ANOVA p value stated above, assuming it was significant. In SPSS, for example, an alternative p value is provided (a more conservative one) which should be used when the assumption is not met. That's the value I'm looking for, but can't see how to obtain it using Jamovi. Apologies if my explaination isn't clear.

Thanks again,

Best wishes, Terry

Re: ANOVA p-values for significant Levene's?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:00 pm
by jonathon
ah, you mean welchs? (yeah, now i re-read your original question, i see i didn't read it properly).

welchs is available in the t-test, but we don't provide it for ANOVA at this time, but i've had a couple of requests so far, so maybe make a note that you're after this over here:

https://github.com/jamovi/jamovi/issues/499

the more attention an issue gets, the more likely it is we'll get to it.

cheers

jonathon

Re: ANOVA p-values for significant Levene's?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:34 pm
by TerryLansdown
Super, thanks!